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Post  jesuitsdidit2 on Sat Nov 28, 2009 11:46 pm

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ok boys n girls lets do it..
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Post  jesuitsdidit2 on Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:41 am

we hav 2 make this happen
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Post  jesuitsdidit2 on Sun Nov 29, 2009 12:55 pm

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Post  jesuitsdidit2 on Sun Nov 29, 2009 1:08 pm

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# Guards Can Be Put on "Infected" People in Wisconsin County
# French Medical Students to be Requisitioned to Work in Swine Flu Jab Centres, No Pay
# ABC Shows Episode Tuesday Featuring Flu Vaccines as Biological Weapons in Storyline
# Shocking Vaccine Miscarriage Horror Stories, by Dr Mercola
# Swiss Health Minister Wants Compulsory Jab for Health Care Workers; Swiss Media Under Fire for Bullying Doctors and Nurses
# FRENCH ARMY TO BE USED IN SWINE FLU VACCINE CENTRES

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Swiss Health Minister Wants Compulsory Jab for Health Care Workers; Swiss Media Under Fire for Bullying Doctors and Nurses
Swiss Health Minister Didier Burkhalter has called for the compulsory vaccination of health personnel. He told Swiss TV on Friday that all health care workers should be obliged to take the swine flu jab. The Swiss Professional Association for Care Workers (Schweizer...
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FRENCH ARMY TO BE USED IN SWINE FLU VACCINE CENTRES
The French army’s medical corps is to help carry out vaccinations in the country’s 1080 vaccine centers, according to an announcement by the French Ministry of Interior today, Saturday. The army is being called in along with doctors and other health care...
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French Medical Students to be Requisitioned to Work in Swine Flu Jab Centres, No Pay
French medical students are going to be requisitioned to work in the country's vaccine centers without pay under plans announced by Valerie Pecreese, the Minister of Higher Education, reports unisfaceauvaccin.org.
She said that the medical students would not be paid but would be mobilised using a law allowing them to be "requisitioned."
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Post  jesuitsdidit2 on Sun Nov 29, 2009 1:18 pm

maybe they r vaccinating health care workers to pass the virus on to those with low immune systems..
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Post  jesuitsdidit2 on Sun Nov 29, 2009 1:24 pm

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Week 46 Sets Record Number of H1N1 US Pediatric Fatalities (11/28/09 18:29)

WHO Weather Report on Ukraine H1N1 D225G Required (11/28/09 17:10)

WHO Silence on D225G Vaccine Mismatch Confuses Media (11/28/09 15:31)
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Post  jesuitsdidit2 on Sun Nov 29, 2009 1:42 pm

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H1N1 swine flu mutation spreads, deaths worldwide on the rise
H1N1 swine flu mutation spreads, deaths worldwide on the rise



Article:

As health officials seek to smooth concerns over the prospect of a more voracious H1N1 swine flu mutation, evidence mounts that the mutated strain is spreading.

With the World Health Organization reporting an increase of over 1,000 swine flu deaths in one week, health officials have been grappling with public awareness of the pandemic's potency - saying the mutations do not pose any significant threat to public health.

However, with the deaths of two French patients infected by the same mutation as that recently found in Norway, there is growing evidence that the more virulent mutated strain is spreading. The two Frenchmen who were reported on Saturday to have died from the H1N1 mutation did not appear to be in communication with each other prior to their infection, and both had been hospitalized in two different cities - supporting the concern that the mutation is arriving in an organic manner from the general flu ecology. ...

...Why is it every article about the mutation of the virus, there is a line in there, saying "The Vaccine is still effective?" B.S!! It is All About the Vaccine!

One note, 80% of France's population one week ago, were against the Swine flu Vaccine, but France has been working a propaganda campaign and now the population of France is wanting the vaccine - it switched in one week's time!

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Another Plague Lashes Out in Europe - Article Is From Associated Content Site 11/29/09 8:00
Another Plague Lashes Out in Europe - Article Is From Associated Content Site

This is an article from Associated Content, which if I am correct is available for MSM companies to pick up if they want. This article goes through all the information we know about already, including the spraying of Ukraine, WHO ignoring what is going on there, etc.

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As if the hysteria of H1N1 influenza were not enough to alter the mood of the population, now there is another disease, more dangerous than the flu around Europe and apparently some U.S. states as well. This new threat to public health has the particularity to calcinate the lungs of those affected.

In Ukraine 1.5 million people have been infected, and thousands more are diagnosed every day. So far, preliminary numbers show that at least 300 people have died from the disease, most of them had no medical complications prior to getting the violent illness. The rapid expansion of this unknown disease may be due in part to the high density of the population in Ukraine and the fact that there is a high migration rate.

The possible causes of this new disease are discussed; one of them being the fact that many of its characteristics are similar to the 1918 Spanish Flu, which killed millions. Other scientists believe it can be a new version of pneumonic fever, due to the short time it takes to cause death.

Hundreds of residents in Kiev, complained that their neighborhoods and surrounding cities were repeatedly sprayed by planes which left dozens of chemical trails in the sky. The new disease appeared in Ukraine a few days after these cities were sprayed. Local newspapers reported that several planes flew aboveKiev, confirming what was said by the residents. ...
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Fran a Reader, put together 70 Swine Flu Vaccine Stories - How it Ruined People's Lives 11/28/09 12:10pm
Fran a Reader, put together 70 Swine Flu Vaccine Stories - How it Ruined People's Lives

Thank you Fran!

Her Email to Me:




hile a few stories about adverse reactions to the H1N1 swine flu vaccine have gotten into the mainstream media, the reality is that most mainstream media outlets are extremely hesitant to publish such stories. The general belief in the media seems to be that if they publish a story about a "rare" adverse reaction to the H1N1 vaccine, then the general public may be discouraged from taking the vaccine and more people will get sick. However, this is a totally false assumption by the media. The truth is that reports of serious adverse reactions to the H1N1 swine flu vaccine are constantly pouring in. In addition, the pharmaceutical companies who produced these vaccines spend millions of dollars to advertise on mainstream media outlets. Do you think that the owners of those mainstream media outlets are going to do anything that will jeopardize that source of income? The truth is that the mainstream media is not going to tell you the stories of those people who have had their lives destroyed by H1N1 swine flu vaccine side effects. Since the mainstream media will not give these victims a voice, we will.

The personal H1N1 vaccine horror stories that you will read below come from comments on this blog along with stories from the following sources.....

Bird Flu Pandemic

BabyCenter Community

Miscarriage / Pregnancy Loss Blog

Health Freedom Alliance

H1N1 Swine Flu Vaccine, Possible Side Effects and the Potential Dangers of Squalene

Canadians for Health Freedom

Facebook Group - h1n1 Vaccine Reactions

Facebook Group - don't get the h1n1 vaccine

Facebook Group - Refusing The H1N1 Swine Flu Vaccine

These are stories that you will not hear in the mainstream media. The reality is that a significant number of people are being hurt by the H1N1 swine flu vaccine and people need to know.

What follows are unedited stories from victims of the H1N1 swine flu vaccine in which they share what has happened to them in their own words..... 70 testimonies ...

...#66) Sufferer:

Please do not take this flu-shot vaccination. I got one about 8 years ago and look what happened to me, I have peripheral neuropathy. It started with the arm they injected; numbness and tingling, all seemed quite harmless at first. But then it spread like a wild fire throughout my entire body, slowly but surely. Trust me, you don’t want any neurological disease, you would rather die its quite terrible. You can almost cure any part of your body except your nerves, any damage is usually irreversible and incurable. ...
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Post  jesuitsdidit2 on Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:03 pm

generally i post the latest at least once a day from 3 sites
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ukraineplague.blogspot
recombinomics.com

flucase and recomb i usually just post the headlines
ukrplg i post a short summary of each article (or all if important)
all relevant info is welcome..
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Post  jesuitsdidit2 on Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:07 pm

i will increase my time here as and when i see more ppl taking an interest
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Post  jesuitsdidit2 on Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:19 pm

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FDA Stopping Any Websites Claiming To Help/Prevent Swine Flu Alternatively! 11/29/09 9:45am

FDA Stopping Any Websites Claiming To Help/Prevent Swine Flu Alternatively!

Seems like the government does not like any claims of the Swine Flu being helped on the internet. The FDA is shutting down any sites with information claiming to help the Swine Flu alternatively, besides the vaccines and Big Pharma medicine!

Wow, I wonder if someone even hints at things like: garlic, Kombucha Tea, Cinnamon, Honey, Vitamin C and D on websites as alternatives to Big Pharma medicines to help your body naturally ward off the flu, colds, WITHOUT taking any medicines or getting that Swine Flu vaccine, they want everyone to get so badly - will also be shut down?

Personally, I have had great results from using Honey - after an cut up onion had soaked in it for 24 hours as a cough medicine and helping my daughter get over a cold/flu. I also used garlic in things to help her. Wonder if that information has to be taken out?

So, I say to EVERYONE - Do NOT get the Vaccine - NOR using Big Pharma medicines - there are Ways to combat the flu naturally - I will say again - Cinnamon proved to save all the people who worked at those factories during the 1918 Spanish flu! Those people did NOT get the flu! I have purchased good quantities of Cinnamon and use it in many things now for my daughter and I to eat.


Article:

The Food and Drug Administration has found at least 20 Web sites that may be fraudulently marketing products with claims that they guard against or cure swine flu, according to the Associated Press in an article published Monday, according to the article, "Cracking Down on Swine Flu Drug Fraud." Consumers now can submit tips about possible online swine flu fraud or scam sites to the FDA at its Flu Contact site. Also see the article, "Online Gangs Sell Fake Swine Flu Drugs, Firm Warns."

Also check out the November 27, 2009 article, "Virus mutation spreads as swine flu deaths leap | AFP | MyWire." Swine flu virus mutations are spreading in Europe, French health officials said Friday as the World Health Organization reported a leap in deaths from the disease by more than 1,000 in a week. As the flu mutates, becomes deadlier, and travels around the world, there's a tendency for more cyber shopping sites online to spring up.

The FDA is concerned about various sites offering products with unproven claims. And the FDA is rebuking the sites to stop claiming flu prevent products that haven't been proven by validated scientific studies and approved specifically for flu prevention by the FDA. ...
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Omaha - Trying last-ditch lung bypass for worst H1N1 cases 11/29/09 9:25am
Omaha - Trying last-ditch lung bypass for worst H1N1 cases


Article:

WASHINGTON (AP) — A technology originally developed for premature babies may be helping to save some of the sickest H1N1 flu patients by rerouting their blood so their lungs can rest.

It's a risky approach using equipment that only certain specialized hospitals have. But faced with children and young adults struggling to breathe despite ventilators has intensive-care doctors dusting off these machines, named ECMO, that they often consider last-ditch and almost never use for influenza. ... 20%
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Ukraine Health Minister Tells Population - Get Ready for Measles and Rubella - Due to Your Mistrust of Vaccines! 11/29/09 8:35am
Ukraine Health Minister Tells Population - Get Ready for Measles and Rubella - Due to Your Mistrust of Vaccines!


Can't the Ukrainians get a break?! The health minister has told the population, due to them not trusting vaccines and not getting the measles or Rubella vaccine, they can expect an epidemic of those this next year to 2011. Remember, the Ukrainians have already been warned of a second wave of the "Swine Flu" by their government and WHO. Seems to me they are really trying to scare the population there into getting all kinds of vaccines!

Article:



Ministry of Health predicts the outbreak of measles and rubella in 2010-2011. * This in an interview Uriadovyi Kurier said Health Minister Vasyl Knyazevich.

* "An additional vaccination against measles and rubella in 2009 will not, and therefore, projected epidemiologists, regular outbreaks of measles and rubella can be expected in 2010-2011," - he said.

* The Minister noted that the money allocated by international organizations for the vaccination against measles and rubella, Ukraine has lost due to distrust of society to mass vaccination.

* Vasily Kniazevych added that according to estimates for future purchase of vaccines against measles and rubella, the State should be 70-100 million hryvnia, transmit Ukrainian News.
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Official Numbers - Ukraine 11/28/09
Official Numbers - Ukraine 11/28/09

1,802,805 SICK

108,373 HOSPITALIZED

422 DEAD

84,194 RELEASED FROM HOSPITAL

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Post  jesuitsdidit2 on Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:01 pm

hi people
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Post  jesuitsdidit2 on Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:22 pm

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H1N1 RBD Changes at 225 Create Vaccine Mismatch Concerns (11/28/09 14:24)
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VFTB 023: Dr. Henry Niman — Deadly Flu in Ukraine
Posted by Derek On November - 19 - 2009

Ukraine flu

WESTERN MEDIA are beginning to notice the outbreak of flu in Ukraine. As of today, some 86,000 people there are hospitalized and 344 have died.

Dr. Henry Niman, founder and president of Recombinomics, Inc., discussed a newly-detected change in the genetic code of the virus that may have made it so dangerous, why he believes this is a natural occurrence, and why we should be concerned about the year ahead.

For his latest comments on this developing situation, visit his website, Recombinomics.com, or follow Dr. Niman on Twitter.

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95% of Deaths In Lviv Regoin of Ukraine Treated with Tamiflu 11/28/09 10:15am
95% of Deaths In Lviv Region of Ukraine Treated with Tamiflu


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Approximately 95-96% of deaths from flu in the Lviv region were treated with drug "Tamiflu". * This was at a session of the Lviv regional council said Director General of the health of the Lviv Regional State Administration Victor Kimakovich.

* Tamiflu - not a panacea. * This antiviral drug. * The fact that its application is very seriously affected the treatment of patients, I can not say, "- said Kimakovich.

* In his words, doctors, in particular, could not assign the drug to patients with renal insufficiency because the drug nephrotoxic and may complicate the situation.

* Kimakovich noted that Lviv was fully provided with Tamiflu during the epidemic, and now there is a surplus product in the field of medical institutions.
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Russia Today - High WHO Officials On PAYROLL of Vaccine Makers! 11/28/09 9:02am
Russia Today - High WHO Officials On PAYROLL of Vaccine Makers!
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WHO Representative in Belarus: "We modern people have a good weapon - vaccination against influenza 11/28/09 8:50am
WHO Representative in Belarus: "We modern people have a good weapon - vaccination against influenza


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Around - red neighbors, with a high incidence: Lithuania has recently announced the epidemic, Ukraine fights Russia's regions, adjacent to us, too ill. * Another curious detail: the neighbors reported that they had swine flu, Belarus does not provide such data.

* So what we have going on with pandemic flu? * How to evaluate our situation, WHO?

* - To assess and monitor the situation in the WHO European Region uses a system of epidemiological surveillance "Evroflyu", is a database on the Internet, in which the countries themselves will wear different qualitative and quantitative epidemiological indicators - explains the head of the Belarusian office of the World Health Organization, RB Egor Zaitsev. * - The data in this system are received weekly from almost all countries in the European region. * At present, there are indicators for the 46 th week (9-15noyabrya. - Ed.): In Belarus, the average intensity of the spread of influenza, compared with the previous week, there is a tendency to decrease. * But I again repeat: each country enters the data into the database itself. * In addition, we can confidently say that the pandemic virus (H1N1) has become the predominant strain of influenza virus circulating in the world.

* - What are the recommendations to combat the epidemic have been at the WHO for Belarus?

* - Since the situation in each individual country, the WHO has not given specific recommendations for Belarus. * WHO provides general recommendations based on best global practices and operational assessment of the situation on pandemic influenza. * There are recommendations for the European region. * Countries were acquainted with them at meetings held in August, September, October, Ministry of Health of Belarus received information on the situation in Europe and the world. * More countries should independently evaluate the risks and decide what measures to apply.

* One of the key recommendations suggests the need to continue vaccination against seasonal influenza as well as from the pandemic. * Specific recommendations - to vaccinate against pandemic influenza risk groups.

* - How much time do we have the vaccination? * And what better vaccines?

* - WHO encourages all countries to start vaccinations as soon as possible. *. Sooner Belarus will be immunized, the more people we can protect against influenza. * However, there is no deadline.

* As far as I know, in Belarus, was put out to tender for the purchase of vaccines against pandemic influenza. * So she will be purchased vaccine, the manufacturer of which won the tender.

* - Does the WHO forecast for Belarus, which may be the percentage of deaths? *
Once cite the figures: 3 fatal cases per 100 thousand people ...

* Apparently, here we are talking about estimates made for pandemic influenza by the European Committee for Disease Control (European Committee for Disease Control). * And the committee did a risk assessment for the European Union, not for Belarus.

* - Ukrainian media reported that the WHO has done together with the Ukrainian Ministry of Health forecast the timing of arrival of the second wave of the epidemic. * When she can be in Belarus?

* - In epidemiological terms, a second wave is expected. * Supposedly, that the second wave of pandemic influenza will occur within a few months. * It is difficult to say exactly when - in January or February. * In contrast to the early twentieth century, in modern humans is a good weapon - vaccination against influenza.

* - WHO could provide Belarus vaccine for swine flu?

* - WHO provides free vaccines to low-and lower-middle-income countries. * It is 95 countries. * In terms of economic development of Belarus is not included in the list of these countries. * But if there is a request from Belarus, the WHO and the UN office in Belarus will consider the possibility of vaccine supplies to Belarus.

WHO always reverts back to vaccines in saying "The Way to combat the Epidemic"! Yet they don't acknowledge the Real Problem of the deaths! ALSO WHO Officials need to Come out in the Open about where they have gotten money from! How many billions have the Vaccine companies given WHO individuals who recommend the vaccines above ALL else?
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Belarus Health Minister - Helplessness - More Than 1.5 Million Sick ONLY 2.6% With Swine Flu! 11/28/09 8:35am
Belarus Health Minister - Helplessness - More Than 1.5 Million Sick ONLY 2.6% With Swine Flu!

- What do we have the flu?

* - Has a number of activities, the formation of the stock of medicines, routine vaccination ... - began to meet Robert Chasnoit, First Deputy Minister of Ministry of Health. * - ... A feature of this epidemic rise was the fact that he was unexpected. * In general, sick, probably more than 1,5 million. * But all diseases. * In the first place are adenoviral infection. И ни в коей мере не грипп. And not in any way not the flu. * Approximately 2.6% - the flu, there are cases and so-called swine flu virus - A/H1N1.

* And then indignantly Chairman Boris Batura:

* - Each district hospital can tell you what their situation. *! (...) In principle, you have begun to do this when it began to resent society! * You are here proshlyapili, and should have been the case to admit! * Why do you think, influenza start suddenly? * This is not a pipe in the housing sector, which had burst and the need to send an emergency. * The whole world is talking about swine influenza! * Planned you farm and you've been able to calmly announce a tender for the vaccine. * And people would see what you are doing this business. (…) Что вы тут расписываетесь в своей беспомощности? (...) What are you sign the helpless?

* These Boris Batura provoked a wave of applause, and Robert Chasnoit said: "excuses, probably not."

* A little later, the first deputy head of the Ministry of Health explained to journalists:

* - Not so fundamentally, how many sick swine flu in Belarus. * The main thing is that the situation is under control of the Ministry. * And the mortality rate does not exceed the data of last year.

* Health Ministry official said that the statistics of cases of swine influenza ozvuchat at the end of the quarter. * And on the steps of Parliament added: "Rejoice that we have a health system is such as in Belarus. * And all come and envy.

Funniest thing about this article. The previous one the Belarus Health Minister said they had No Clue on how many are sick or have died with the bleeding lungs. Here he says the mortality rate does not exceed that of last year. Either he is strictly using the "Swine Flu" statistics and leaving out in those numbers the people who are sick and have died from the bleeding lungs and disintegration of lungs, or he is using those with the normal flu. But the Health Minister has already previously said, they do not have the numbers of dead from the bleeding lungs disease.
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Belarus Ministry Of Health Can Not Say How Many Are Sick Or Dead -From Bleeding Lungs and Lungs Disintergrating! 11/28/09 8;15am
Belarus Ministry Of Health Can Not Say How Many Are Sick Or Dead from Bleeding Lungs - Lungs Disintergrating!

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While the general background of reducing morbidity in the country doctors extinguish the fire of pneumonia, the chief sanitary doctor still says that the country is under control. * Mortality figures are not called. * And hopes for "the immune stratum" recover from citizens who wrote naviny.by.

* In an interview with talk show "The Choice" on ONT chief medical officer Valentina Kachan expressed surprise that working directly in the hospital doctors say the high number of severe pneumonia and a surprising number admitted: "When they say that doctors were perplexed, they Still a little cunning.

* Recently published revelations Pediatric Dobrush regional hospital Eugenia Lopanova, according to which, the increase in the number of cases of pneumonia resembles a snowball.

* The doctor explained that the disease is like a normal influenza - begins with weakness, malaise, fever, shortness of breath increases, there is a cough, pain between the shoulder blades, joints may be a violation of the digestive system - vomiting, nausea, anorexia and diarrhea. * "Man is drawn when he was tormented by shortness of breath, he can not breath, dry cough, and the worst - when it deals with sputum containing blood, is already aggravating factor, suggests that lung tissue began to disintegrate," - listed the symptoms of resuscitator .

* Valentine Cachan assured: "We can not say that all the pneumonia virus in Belarus now. * The problem, according to her, rather that single out a few microorganisms that are resistant to antibiotics and antivirals.

* Valentine Cachan referred to the documents, which is accumulating in April and adjusted during the period of epidemic rise of the disease, when the day met at the headquarters to fight the flu. * She also recalled that there have been redeveloped beds, brought to work in the hospitals of the students, "no one was left without consultation, and in all difficult cases, in addition to bring in different specialists.

* This Valentine Cachan stressed that say that retrained place in a hurry, wrong. * "Another thing is that the time required rapid decision-making, and we joined in bed in Aksakovschina, City for those patients who have recovered," - she said.

* According to the Ministry of Health, on November 23 in Belarus, 179 laboratory confirmed cases of swine flu, including the period of epidemic rise of morbidity - 153 cases. * During the period of monitoring influenza type A (including the swine flu) was detected in 22.3% of cases in - in 3,3%, parainfluenza in 8.2%, adenoviruses - 21%, respiratory syncytial virus -- in 17,7%.
* As of November 19 swine flu was detected in 13 people who died of pneumonia. * All these people had a mixed infection. * Further information on deaths from pneumonia in the Ministry of Health does not provide.

* Valentine Cachan stressed the need to take into account that the laboratory at the swine flu in Belarus are examined acute respiratory ill children up to two years and those who suffer a severe flu. * So to say exactly how many Belarusians chickenpox influenza A/H1N1, not even the Ministry of Health.

* In this competition for the supply of vaccine against swine flu in Belarus has already declared. * It is expected that the vaccine will do in late November - early December.

* "Belarusian News" has already asked the question - how can one talk about the competition for the purchase of vaccines, without naming the volume of supply? * How can people decide to vaccinate, when not possess information on the incidence of disease, its complications?

* Valentine Cachan partially responded to them during the interview "Choice". * According to her, today there are other countries' experiences and recommendations of WHO, which allow and without accurate statistics on the number of payments to recover from the vaccination.

* As of November 21 against seasonal influenza in Belarus vaccinated 1 010 632 people, which is 35,9% more than in 2008. * At the same time, WHO recommends vaccination of 20% of the population. * If the grafted million to add a million recover from SARS, this quantity, according to V. Cachan, create a society immune layer, which will hope that the second wave of disease "will not be this difficult.

* Valentine Cachan underlined that according to the number of people who have recovered, having received the full treatment can be judged that the increase in the incidence of influenza was not a surprise for the Belarusian health care system. * "If it was a surprise, our losses would have been much greater. * The mobilization of all means and forces, beginning in May, allowed to assist. * However, doctors are not gods ", - she said.

They plainly say above, very few people have gotten the Swine Flu - Yet ALL the people who are sick or have died of Bleeding Lung and the Destruction of the Lungs - which they admit IS HAPPENING - They WILL NOT SAY HOW MANY?

I am completely lost here, I still continue to be in amazement that the WHO and governments of the world who are having these "pneumonic plague" type sickness and deaths are NOT coming out in the opened about them!

People need to be Educated on what is happening in the world, so they then can take steps to help themselves in prevention of it!

Isn't that what WHO's job is? Prevention of Diseases? So why are they NOT doing their job? They keep denying there is anything else wrong, even when Government Officials acknowledge Bleeding Lungs and disintegration of lungs!

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WHO Held a Conference In October Said Pneumonia Will Be Problem AND Will Affect Disproportionately Minorities and Indigenous Populations 11/28/09 8:00
WHO Held a Conference In October Said Pneumonia Will Be a Problem AND Will Affect Disproportionately Minorities and Indigenous Populations


16 OCTOBER 2009 | GENEVA - WHO held October 14-16 three-day meeting at the headquarters of the Pan American Health Organization in Washington to gather information about the clinical features and management of patients with pandemic influenza. * About 100 doctors, scientists and health professionals from America, Europe, Asia, Africa, Middle East and Oceania, presented findings and lessons learned.

* The meeting confirmed that the overwhelming majority of people around the world, disease is a form of influenza-like illness without complications, with full recovery within a week, even without medication.
The need for intensive care

* Currently, however, focuses on the clinical course of disease in small subgroups of patients who developed rapidly progressive and very severe pneumonia, and on the conduct of such patients. * In these patients severe pneumonia is often associated with the development of insufficiency of other organs or marked deterioration associated asthma or chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.

* To treat such patients is difficult - it requires great effort and resources. * This clearly indicates that the heaviest burden of patient care during a pandemic will be on the intensive care unit and intensive care.

* In severe cases, the most common primary viral pneumonia, which often leads to death. * In 30% of deaths were diagnosed with secondary bacterial infections. * The most common causes of death were respiratory failure and refractory shock.

* During the meeting were submitted to detailed studies of the pathology in severe cases, confirmed by the results of tests on experimental animals. * These data confirm the ability of the new H1N1 virus directly cause severe pneumonia.

* The clinical picture is different from seasonal influenza

* The meeting, which led these patients, agreed that the clinical picture in severe cases is very different from the clinical picture observed during epidemics of seasonal influenza. * It is known that people with certain health conditions, including pregnancy, are at increased risk, however, many severe cases occur among previously healthy young people. * Factors that increase the risk of severe disease in these patients, to date, unclear, despite ongoing research.

* In severe cases, the deterioration of the patient is usually 3-5 days after onset of symptoms. * Deterioration is rapid pace - in many patients within 24 hours of developing respiratory failure that requires their immediate placement in intensive care. * Most hospitalized patients required immediate respiratory support with mechanical ventilation. * However, some patients fail to respond adequately to standard methods of auxiliary ventilation, which complicates further treatment.

* The positive is that the information presented at the meeting, increasing the amount of evidence indicating that rapidly started treatment with antiviral drugs, oseltamivir and zanamivir, helps to alleviate the severity of the disease and increase the likelihood of survival. * These data reinforce previous recommendations of WHO for early treatment with these drugs patients meeting the criteria of treatment, even in the absence of a positive confirmatory test.

* Evidence shows that in addition to pneumonia, directly caused by replication of the virus, pneumonia caused by concomitant bacterial infection, can also exacerbate the severe, rapidly progressive disease. * Among the detected bacteria are often observed Streptococcus pneumoniae and Staphylococcus aureus, including in some cases, strains resistant to methicillin. * Due to the fact that these accompanying bacterial infections are more common than previously thought, doctors stressed the need for early treatment as empirical antimicrobial therapy for community-acquired pneumonia.

* Groups at highest risk

* The meeting agreed that the highest risk of developing severe or fatal disease threatens to three groups: pregnant women, especially during the third trimester of pregnancy, children under two years old and people with chronic lung diseases, including asthma. * The risk of developing severe illness in children can improve the neurological disorder.

* Presented at the meeting, the evidence shows that the severe forms of the disease disproportionately affect disadvantaged populations such as groups of national minorities and indigenous populations. * Despite the fact that the reasons for this increased risk is still not fully understood, considered version includes more common in these groups, concomitant diseases such as diabetes and asthma, and lack of access to health care.

* Despite the poor understanding of today the exact role of obesity, it is largely present in severe and fatal cases. * This is especially true of pathological obesity. * Obesity is not considered a risk factor either in past pandemics, or during seasonal influenza.
* WHO and its partners provide technical guidance and practical support to developing countries to better detection and treatment of diseases caused by a pandemic virus. * Rapidly is drawing up recommendations for patient care in resource-limited settings.

As I see this article, in October they laid out what would be happening. My question is, if this is the Swine Flu they are talking about, then it would be the same everywhere, but what they discuss in this article as I read it; Is they have said there would be bacterial infections which is NOT a Viral Infection. The WHO basically laid out the fact the Swine Flu was a mild flu, but something else would be occurring of a bacterial nature.

I would like to know what testings they did saying minorities and Indigenous people will be affected more, besides them using the excuse of health care as an attributing factor.

The WHO, which is the originating source of this article needs to come out and admit the Vaccines that have been made for the Swine Flu, would be of no use against this Bacterial pneumonia they mentioned in this article.


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S Korean student dies of cerebral hemorrhage after receiving A/H1N1 vaccine 11/30/09 7:30am

S Korean student dies of cerebral hemorrhage after receiving A/H1N1 vaccine


Of Course they say there is no connection to the Swine Flu Vaccine shot - It just so happened after the child got the Swine Flu Vaccine!

Amazing how there are so MANY Deaths (most we don't hear about) after people get the Swine Flu vaccine. But jeez, to make any correlation is just silly from the WHO and various Government officials around the world. If they did ever say there was a connection then all those pharmaceutical companies would lose out of billions and trillions of dollars. Because people would not take the vaccine so readily as those governments are pushing the FEAR factor to their populace! The Banks have their Trillions now it is the BIG Pharma companies to get their Trillions as the rest of us Normal folks lose jobs, get foreclosed on, need food stamps, veterans being left by the way side after being used and are homeless.

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SEOUL, Nov. 30 (Xinhua) -- A South Korean student had died of cerebral hemorrhage after receiving A/H1N1 vaccine, while health authorities said the death case is not associated with the vaccine, local media reported on Monday.

According to the Ministry for Health, Welfare and Family Affairs, a student, whose identity has not been revealed, died of cerebral hemorrhage on Saturday, four days after being inoculated with the A/H1N1 vaccine.

Investigation jointly carried out by experts, the health ministry, the Korea Food and Drug Administration and the National Institute of Scientific Investigation showed that there is not direct causality between the vaccine and the victim's cerebral hemorrhage, the ministry said.

Computer tomography showed serious bleeding in the brain that could indicate a prior dangerous medical condition, so the death may have been caused by an aneurysm, or an extreme swelling on the wall of an artery, in the brain, local media quoted experts who took part in the investigation as saying.

The health authorities also conducted an investigation to 516 students out of a total of 966 students who received the vaccine from the same production batch, and only 70 cases reported with minor side-effects, and the symptoms had vanished in a short period, the ministry said.
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FREE Ways to Avoid the Swine Flu - An Article - With some of my Own Additions 11/30/09 6:45am

FREE Ways to Avoid the Swine Flu - An Article - With some of my Own Additions


Article:

If you want to avoid the swine flu, also known as H1N1, but don't want to spend the money on a flu shot or for some other reason are unable to get an H1N1 flu shot, here are a few things you can do to avoid the swine flu that are either free or can be done for pennies.

1. Wash your hands frequently and avoid touching your face.

2. Gargle with warm salt water twice a day, or you may substitute Listerine if you're prefer. This is important because H1N1 takes two to three days before symptoms develop. Gargling with saltwater or Listerine keeps H1N1 from prolifterating. if a healthy person does this, it is just as effective as Tamiflu, the H1N1 vaccine.

3. Eat foods that are rich in vitamin C. Those who choose to boost vitamin C intake through tablets should also take Zinc because that helps the vitamin C to absorb properly

4. Clean your nostrils with salt water daily. Blow your nose hard afterwards and then use a swab that has been dipped in warm salt water in both nostrils.

5. Drink warm liquids such as hot tea, coffee, etc. frequently. The hot liquids rinse viruses from the throat down into the stomach where they can't survive.

These are simple, inexpensive things that can be done to help prevent swine flu.

My additions:

Vitamin D!! The winter months are when people get the least amount of sun in the Northern Hemisphere. The sun is the only way to get vitamin D naturally. Vitamin D is very important for our bodies to keep up immunity against viruses.

I use a nasal mist sprayer a few times a day. I have distilled water in it with ONE drop of 35% Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide. That washes out my nasal passages but it also provides oxygen to my body at the same time.

Kombucha Tea - one of the acids in it, has shown to Prevent the Avian Flu from infecting birds. There is a posting strictly on that in last weeks posts.
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Dogs and Pigs Test Positive In China For Swine Flu 11/30/09 6:22am
Dogs and Pigs Test Positive In China For Swine Flu


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BEIJING, Nov. 30 -- Health experts in China have assured pet-lovers they need not panic following the discovery of two dogs infected with the deadly H1N1 flu at the weekend.

The animals were diagnosed in Beijing and, while it is possible for pets to transfer viruses to their owners, scientists said there is no evidence to suggest pets are already spreading the illness.

"If animals can get infected from humans, then the reverse is also true," said Feng Zijian, director of emergency response for the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention.

"But there is no need to panic in this case."

He explained that so far, across the world, the virus has only been passed from humans to pets.

However, if the virus spreads among dogs, it could potentially be passed on when the animal sneezes or through its waste.

"Only when the virus mutates within dogs will it be a new threat to humans," Feng said.

The virus found in dogs in Beijing was a 99-percent match for the flu currently infecting humans, according to the Ministry of Agriculture, which announced the canine infection on Saturday but did not elaborate on the breed.

"The role of dogs in the virus

Health experts in China have assured pet-lovers they need not panic following the discovery of two dogs infected with the deadly H1N1 flu at the weekend.

The animals were diagnosed in Beijing and, while it is possible for pets to transfer viruses to their owners, scientists said there is no evidence to suggest pets are already spreading the illness.

"If animals can get infected from humans, then the reverse is also true," said Feng Zijian, director of emergency response for the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention.

"But there is no need to panic in this case."

He explained that so far, across the world, the virus has only been passed from humans to pets.

However, if the virus spreads among dogs, it could potentially be passed on when the animal sneezes or through its waste.

"Only when the virus mutates within dogs will it be a new threat to humans," Feng said.

The virus found in dogs in Beijing was a 99-percent match for the flu currently infecting humans, according to the Ministry of Agriculture, which announced the canine infection on Saturday but did not elaborate on the breed.

"The role of dogs in the virus' mutation is still unknown. However, pigs provide a better environment for virus mutation," Feng said.

"Pigs are regarded as the gene mixer."

The canines, which were probably infected by their owners, are contagious to other dogs, an expert at the Beijing Agricultural Bureau told Beijing Times on Saturday.

On Nov 19, four pork samples tested positive for H1N1 at a slaughterhouse in Shuangcheng, Heilongjiang province. The animals were also infected by humans, according to reports.

Meanwhile, as China rushes to vaccinate people against the flu, the H1N1 virus is picking up speed.

Eight infected children are in critical condition at a hospital in Shenzhen, Guangdong province. Two of them, aged 9 and 11, have been diagnosed as brain dead.

"I believe the H1N1 virus led to white matter lesions in the children," said Li Chengrong, president of Shenzhen Children's Hospital, who added that the illness attacks the nervous system and can cause dementia, coma and even death.

He said parents should pay close attention to a child's mental state if they become ill.

Symptoms include delays in responding, incoherence in speech, restlessness and insomnia.

"Once a child starts to convulse or goes into a coma, it's too late," Li said.' mutation is still unknown. However, pigs provide a better environment for virus mutation," Feng said.

"Pigs are regarded as the gene mixer."

The canines, which were probably infected by their owners, are contagious to other dogs, an expert at the Beijing Agricultural Bureau told Beijing Times on Saturday.

On Nov 19, four pork samples tested positive for H1N1 at a slaughterhouse in Shuangcheng, Heilongjiang province. The animals were also infected by humans, according to reports.
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S. Korea Reports it's First Drug Resistant Case of The Swine Flu 11/30/09 6;20am
S. Korea Reports it's First Drug Resistant Case of The Swine Flu



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Seoul - Health authorities Monday reported South Korea's first case of swine flu that was resistant to the anti-viral drug Tamiflu, and called for extra precautions against any future cases.

The health ministry said in a statement that it found a Tamiflu-resistant strain of the (A)H1N1 virus in a five-year-old boy, who needed repeated and doubled doses of Tamiflu to recover.

Another anti-viral drug, Relenza, proved effective in specimens taken from the child but he was too young to take the drug, it added.

The ministry urged people to report immediately to hospitals or health authorities if Tamiflu had no effect five straight days after the first dose.

It said the World Health Organisation has reported 75 Tamiflu-resistant cases globally since the first such case in North America in April.

South Korea's swine flu death toll has reached 104 but the spread of the disease is waning, according to the ministry. - AFP


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Post  jesuitsdidit2 on Mon Nov 30, 2009 12:52 pm

the virus is in the vaccine
the vaccine will spread the virus
theyve done it before

they want to reduce the world population by 95%
and /or provide a smokescreen for the coming economic collapse by creating a situation so serious that we wont notice the collapse

its all been discussed on the icke forum

the swine flu is an engineered virus deliberately released to cause a pandemic
theyve based it on the A/H1N1 virus responsible for the 1918 Spanish Flu that killed 50-100 million which at the time was 2% of the world population
now it can spread much quicker as people travel more and faster

if u r not aware of the depopulation agenda see my posts and threads on the Icke forum
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i havent really got going yet
setting all this up and dealing with my suspension from Icke forum etc has taken quite a bit of time
hopefully will start moving later today
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# PROOF PANDEMRIX IS A DANGEROUS NANO VACCINE
# UK Mother Taken to Court For Refusing To Allow Daughter To Have Swine Flu Jab, reports Telegraph
# UK Laboratory says H1N1 Vaccine Not Likely to be Effective Against the Swine Flu Virus Variant.
# Swine flu `is no worse than seasonal strains', Australian Experts Say
# Swine Flu Mutated Virus Detected in France
# Vaccine-Generated Pandemic in Austria By January?
# France to Mobilise 100-150 Military Vaccine Teams
# Outbreak of Severe Flu in Eastern Poland Connected to Night Flights?
# CDC Whips Up Swine Flu Hysteria Among Traveller as Quarantine Stations Wait to be Filled Up
# French Agency Prepared for Pandemic in January 2009
# Swiss Media and Health Officials Step Up Campaign for Forced Vacccination of Health Personnel
# More people in Germany file criminal charges over the swine flu
# Young Man Dies in Slovenia After Taking Swine Flu Shot
# German Student Files Criminal Charges After Suffering Damage from Pandemrix Jab, Accuses Doctor of Bodily Harm
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Post  angeress on Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:03 pm

How about the views on Icke's video regd Swine Flu and do you believe the fact that swine flu like the AIDS epidemic could be manmade?
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Post  jesuitsdidit2 on Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:51 pm

angeress wrote:How about the views on Icke's video regd Swine Flu and do you believe the fact that swine flu like the AIDS epidemic could be manmade?

my info re AIDS is its basically a harmless retrovirus will post links later
"swine flu" has been released deliberately imo
i havnt seen Ickes video on swine flu
i dont really follow his work
but his forum has cool ppl thats y i was there
ps i saw u got a bad msg fm me on outlaw.. it wasnt me, sum1 messing w my emails ir..
stay in touch J.
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H1N1 Evolution Outpacing Vaccine and Host Defenses (11/30/09 13:32)
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H1N1 Evolution Outpacing Vaccine and Host Defenses
Recombinomics Commentary 13:32
November 30, 2009
The designation of one of the Ukraine D225G isolates as a "low reactor" raises concerns that the H1N1 evolution is outpacing the vaccine as well as immune responses from unvaccinated hosts. This concern was present ealry when changes began to appear at position 225, a known antigenic site.

One of the highest profile isolates was the San Francisco traveler to Hong Kong, who was reported (in July) to have Tamiflu resistant H1N1, even though she had not taken Tamiflu. Her case was mild and she recovered without antiviral treatment, but the virus had a receptor binding domain change, D225E. A survey of D225E at the time demonstrated that it was first reported in the US in New Jersey, but not subsequently. However, it had spread to many other countries, raising concerns that the US surveillance was missing this widespread sub-clade.

Moreover, there were soon examples of D225G and D225N in other early samples supporting the use of position 225 to escape host defenses. The concern of multiple changes at the same position increased when sequences from fatal cases in Sao Paulo were releasd recently. The July/August collections had D225G in two of two fatal cases, and D225N in two of two other fatal cases, with 3 of 4 samples coming from lung.

These concerns increased when sequence data from Ukraine was released and 4 of 4 fatal cases had D225G.

The above data reinforced concerns that the changes at position 225 were becoming more prevalent, especially in samples collected from affected organs of fatal cases.

The concerns ratcheted up another notch when one of the four cases was characterized antigenically, and was reported to be a "low reactor". Since the low reactor had only one amino acid change in HA, the role of D225G in the reduced titers raised the level of concern higher.

However, WHO has yet to address this result. The "low reactor" status was quietly added to the characterization sheet at GISAID and there has been little comment in the mainstream media, other than a sentence in the New York Times on Friday.

Comment form WHO and other agencies, including Mill Hill and the CDC, who were conducting testing of the Ukrainian samples, is long overdue.
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# Details of Secret German Contract with GSK revealed by BILD
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# How the WHO is Using the Swine Flu to Hogtie the US
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